Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

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Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby edessex » Wed 26 Oct 2011 2:43 pm

Hopefully a quick one, there is two sets of weights for Hi-Caps Standard and Heavy Duty...

How can I tell a HD Hi-Cap from a standard one?
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby PMcCombie » Wed 26 Oct 2011 7:51 pm

Not sure with 130 but my 110 has double rear springs?
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby MG Mal » Wed 26 Oct 2011 7:55 pm

My 130 also has double rear spring set,
and the part numbers ( I was told) match MOD HD Spec.
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby farmerboy_y2k » Wed 26 Oct 2011 8:33 pm

MG Mal wrote:My 130 also has double rear spring set,
and the part numbers ( I was told) match MOD HD Spec.


Standard set up with single coil rear springs and standard fronts is a gross vehicle weight of 3050kg.

HD set up is Dual rear coils (small inner spring inside standard spring) and HD front springs gives a gross vehicle weight of 3500kg. The salisbury rear axle on 3500kg models is also a stronger axle case than standard, but the internals are the same.

So look at the rear springs and also check the plate under the bonnet for the GVW.
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby edessex » Wed 26 Oct 2011 10:27 pm

It's my truck I'm tryin to figure out... 1985 110 HCPU↲ ↲I've spoken to several Hi-Cap owners, the weights seem to change through the years, so I can't go by them. ↲ ↲Does the double spring thing apply for 1980's 110s?
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby farmerboy_y2k » Wed 26 Oct 2011 11:26 pm

I don't think the earlier ones had the HD option. what does the plate under the bonnet say?
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby edessex » Thu 27 Oct 2011 11:53 am

2,999kg Revenue weight...

The bit what you say about weights does tally with what Nick found out for me!

Nick wrote:Thanks for you patience while I've been looking into your request. I've
contacted our Heritage Centre to get the information which you needed. The
following is the published weights for your vehicle in Kilograms.

*Gross vehicle weight:* 3050
*(Gross vehicle (heavy duty):* 3500)

*Front axle: 1200, rear axle:* 1750 (1850 unlevelled)
(*Heavy duty - front axle:* 1580, *rear axle*: 2200)

*Towing *
*Unbraked trailer:* 750
*Trailer with overrun brakes:* 3500
*Four wheel trailer with coupled braking:* 4000

Unfortunately the Heritage Centre have no record of the Mass Authorised
Mass.



I did think maybe my truck started off life as a standard-body pick-up, or even a station wagon, but I checked the VIN and it confirms it rolled out the factory as a High-Cap...

landroveroneten.com wrote:Body Style: H -High Capacity Pick Up with/without crew cab


...So I'm guessing that I have a standard-but-slightly-lighter HCPU?
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby farmerboy_y2k » Thu 27 Oct 2011 7:05 pm

Who's altered the weight on yours then? apart from the two weights already shown the only other suspension/GVW option was station wagons with self leveling suspension which is 2950kg.

The 4000kg towing limit with coupled brakes only applied to 2.5P, V8 and Tdi. The 2.5NA was still limited to 3500kg even with coupled brakes. (bit irrelevant as i've only ever seen two defender with the coupled brake set up and one of those was land rover experience's 6x4.
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby edessex » Fri 28 Oct 2011 4:18 pm

Did try and reply last night, but still having problems with this site on my phone! :evil:

Anyway.... I suppose it is possible that a previous owner could have had it down-plated, but I don't see what benefit knocking 51kg off would do?

I'm guessing that it would have had to be done when the truck was fairly new?

Being that mine in a quite early one-ten, could it be possible that they changed the weights after they brought out the HD version? Does anyone know the weights of the Series III Hi-Caps?
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Re: Differences between Standard & Heavy-Duty

Postby farmerboy_y2k » Fri 28 Oct 2011 7:23 pm

The weights are the same from the 110's launch in 1983, yours isn't that early.
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